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Jaiku developer Rick Measham posted decided to hijack the Jaiku - Pownce - Twitter poll. My email to him:

Your posting makes me think you were bitter about Jaiku’s performance before you had your network hijack the poll. Of course, now the results are less than objective because you are gaming the system. That’s too bad.

Perhaps a better service would get better results,

Geoff

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1 year ago by Geoff L. - Pro!

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    Dan B. replied Jul 11, 2007
    That's pretty sad that they had to do that. They can all co-exist, I mean after all, the Cola wars have raged on for years. I've tried all 3 services and I prefer Pownce. I think it has the best potential.
  • william s. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Jaiku is a little unusable as a mobile platform without support for US Mobile carriers -- at least for me.
  • Ben G. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Until Pownce gets RSS, it's nothing to me. Can you call it a hijacking though? Surely you posted the initial link to the poll from Pownce?
  • Geoff L. replied Jul 11, 2007
    I posted it everywhere I could - Twitter, everywhere -- so that anyone could access it. This was a very public poll, and believe it or not the results almost exactly matched the Alexa traffic until this happened. So I think the results were valid.
  • Doug D. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Geoff That sucks
  • william s. replied Jul 11, 2007
    @ Ben - do you mean, importing RSS or exporting your own data as RSS.

    http://pownce.com/feed...
  • Andrew G. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Corrections:
    1. Rick isn't a developer of Jaiku - he is, however, a third party developer and fan of Jaiku.
    2. Rick didn't post that on Jaiku - I did (I'm also not a developer - I am however contracted to Jaiku).

    You say yourself "I posted it everywhere I could", but only mention twitter. I certainly didn't see it on Jaiku anywhere (or on Pownce for that matter, but I'm less well connected here). That, combined with Jaiku's placement on your poll option (dead last, behind 'none' and 'all') and your subsequent negativity makes me suspect a little bit of bias, to be honest.
  • Andrew G. replied Jul 11, 2007
    And, as a side note - I hate the way my newlines disappeared - sorry for the block of text folks.
  • Geoff L. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Well, Andrew to be honest, the stats identically matched the Alexa traffic for all three sites. So your little suspicion probably threw the whole poll off. Thanks, and nice job.
  • william s. replied Jul 11, 2007
    @ Andrew - the newlines are there, just in the preview or whatever they don't show :)
  • Andrew G. replied Jul 11, 2007
    If Alexa stats are so great, why bother with the poll in the first place? :)

    To be honest, my suspicions only appeared after your unwarranted attack on Rick, who, as far as I can tell, was (in his own inimitable style) suggesting ways that your methodology could give more meaningful results.

    I'm assuming my comment on your blog post was deleted, by the way? Or did it just fail to post for some reason?
  • Andrew G. replied Jul 11, 2007
    @william s - Yeah, saw that after I hit refresh - thanks :)
  • Andrew G. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Geoff

    I see now that you've removed the poll.

    I guess you didn't really mean it when you said "Vote, spread the word, heck, take the code and put it on your own blog!"?
  • Geoff L. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Hey, Andrew -- oops -- George Bush -- thanks for pulling a hanging chad. Maybe you should just develop a better service that's more compelling.
  • Andrew G. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Before this descends into an ongoing series of one way ad hominem attacks, I'll bow out of it.

    If anyone (including Geoff, when he's feeling more rational) would like to discuss this, I'm andrew@jaiku.com

  • Geoff L. replied Jul 11, 2007
    Hey, I agree that it's cool if he posted it somewhere, but the results were so obviously moving one way -- to the point that Jaiku superseded Twitter -- that the results were no longer valid. Until that happened the results were 52% Twitter, 27% Pownce, and something like 9 or 10% for Jaiku. These numbers almost identically match Alexa stats, so I believe they were valid. Further, admitting that Andrew works for Jaiku just killed it. Until this point it was only fans, not corporate.

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